The Useful Idiot

We found the MOST wonderful parody at MPAC UK

http://www.mpacuk.org/story/051109/british-jewish-groups-have-been-lobbying-hard.html#comment-6225

Our point is NOT that the killing at Sabra & Shatila are to be mocked but rather that the hyperbole and myth from some people needs to be parodied.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1126061.html

"UN report finds no evidence of arms smuggling to Lebanon"

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1125885.html

"WATCH: Video of Israel Navy commandeering arms ship"

Hmm! Is this another example of UN wilful bias and hatred of Israel we wonder.

We think there is a simple logic that has been missed.

Goldstone cites Israel and Hamas as potentially having engaged in War Crimes.

Hamas fires thousands of missiles & rockets at Israel over 2-3 years (since Israel left Gaza).

Hamas breaks the ceasefire, ignores pleas from Egypt and Israel to renew a ceasefire and stop firing rockets or Israeli will have to respond militarily.

They ignore the please and Israel responds.

So, if Goldstone says that firing rockets and missiles at Israel is a War Crime then it MUST have been a War Crime over the 2-3 years during which Israel made token responses and more often made no response.

So where was the UN for that time while Hamas were engaging in War Crimes?

If they ignored them then then why aren't they ignoring them now. Oh, we know, because its a chance to put Israel in the dock.

This report is going absolutely NOWHERE!

Its almost a year since we made any posts. We were busy!

Visiting MPAC UK and Harrys Place - two cheeks of totally different arses - we felt the need to start blogging as "Fans of Harry's Place" and "Hasbara ZioBots" in exposing the worst of MPAC UK. They've gone unmoderated you know!

We thought about being "ObamaAntiMessiah" and then decided we'd wait until Gene at Harrys Place had something positive to say about Obama that we could 'fisk'. It would be about last year that Gene ventured a pro-Obama post. SInce then there haven't been too many opportunities so he resorts to highlighting anti-Obama news items to play "Disgusted of Somewhere in The USA".

MPAC UK have really gone off the rails. Zionists under the bed and all that.

BBC have closed down "5LiveJewHateFest" messageboards so we need not waste time there.

Guardian's "Comment Islamically Frequently" (or CIF as its called) has its own CiF Watch so we'll leave it to the experts.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbfivelive/F2148565?thread=6168862 "Jews at The Movies" is a post to a link without comments.

It links to this article http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/celebrity/la-oe-stein19-2008dec19,0,2313474.column - noting wrong with the article but the thread title by the antisemitic poster "tsarion" is NOTHING to do with Jews AT the Movies, its to do with Jewish influence in Hollywood and people's perceptions.

The BBC's posting rules state:-

This topic is for you to discuss current news stories from around the World. You must include a link to the source of your story. Discussions that do not clearly discuss a current international news story, or appear to be general political discussion or campaigning, may be closed, and off-topic posts may be removed.

Yet the item is NOT a News item.

But the BBC refuse to remove it according to their own rules. This only fuels the suspicion that BBC Moderators are inclined towards sustaining antisemitic posts.

UPDATE:

The BBC seem to have hidden it now and so they must have listened to a complaint. However, we know from someone who contacted us, and provided evidence, that they didn't sustain the first complaint. Maybe different moderators have different political agendas.

One of our colleagues has a dispute with the website netfootie.com who have taken a second year subscription from a Paypal account but they have never provided any service to our colleague. So, Paypal have been invited to investigate.

We refer ONLY to netfootie.com and no other football streaming site. In fact if you want FREE streaming football then google for "livefooty" and also "freshmillion". That will reveal two FREE sites to you.

When the initial registration for netfootie.com took place our colleague received an e-mail stating a username and password. This combination never worked and e-mail's to the webmaster resulted in no response or any attempt to resolve the problem.

Our colleague put it down to experience and forgot about it. The registration for the next year took place automatically and our colleague immediately e-mailed the contact provided by Paypal to explain that they did NOT agree to this money being taken as no service had ever been provided and no responses to complaints had been received.

No response has been sent to this latest enquiry.

Until this is resolved we feel it acceptable to present the facts in the hope that this gets resolved - or this is indeed a scam for which we provide a warning.

Here is the body of the e-mail in which the money has been taken. Personal identifying information has been hidden:-

Amount: 7.95 GBP

Date: xx Nov 2008

Subscription Name: netfootie.com 1 year Renewable Membership Subscription Number: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  Item Number: Period3

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Contact Information

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If you have any questions or concerns about this subscription, please contact:

Name: lee xxxxxxxx

Email: sales@netfootie.com

Our colleague has indeed used those contact details to no avail. Its NETFOOTIE.COM and no other site!

Hopefully, the Google Bots will reference this page within a day or so.

It seems there are no boundaries for Israel-hating BBC. It is a rule of BBC 5Live messageboard that only ONE thread is allowed about a news item. Except BBC just broke their rules on a news item (five days old) whereby Reuters expressed their opinions about a cameraman caught up in the Israel Palestinian conflict.

The BBC have allowed this subject to be discussed TWICE and have eben allowed the use of the SAME BBC source twice. This is against their own rules concerning posting at the messageboard.

One of their rules for removing a message or thread  states:-

It is well-known that if you post a thread that someone else has started then the subsequent threads are removed.

BUT NOT IF YOUR THREAD BASHES ISRAEL. IT SEEMS THE BBC WILL BREAK THEIR OWN RULES!!

Here is thread One http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbfivelive/F2148565?thread=5776061 - from the same day as the news item appeared.

Here is thread TWO which shouldn't be allowed by BBC Rules http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbfivelive/F2148565?thread=5791715

They reference THE SAME BBC NEWS ITEM!!!!!! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7560672.stm dated 14th August. Today is 19th August - its not even News anymore.

Demand to know from the BBC why they have allowed this in contravention of their rules despite at least one complaint having been made to the BBC Moderators. Maximum Publicity Please!

Al Guardian lauds the attempts of some activists to break the 'Gaza blockade" http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/aug/05/israelandthepalestinians.middleeast "Cherie Blair's sister joins battle to break Gaza blockade". BATTLE???????

But the 'starving?" Gazans have used their tunnels to smuggle in ANIMALS FOR THE ZOO!!!! http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1009861.html

Lauran Booth shouldn't waste her time in one of those wooden boats that might be scupperd by getting too close to the wrong type of ship. She should be loading Elephants. Now watch how low that boat is now Lauren!!!

Lets face it, Al Guardian seems to be an  Antisemitic rag as a recent report about the content of their Comment is Free sections seems to demonstrate.

We monitor BBC 5Live Messageboards and also have information about who posts there. Recently there have been a spate of arguments about Israel and The Palestinians. One of the features is that known Antisemite posters like "Brandon", "pak4life", "GENRAL FFC" , "Cerebrus" have been goading other posters with more than a few lies. (we wonder if BBC would allow a poster to call themselves "yid4life")

Consequently, one of the main defenders of the truth has told us that their account has now been subject to pre-moderation for absolutely no reason other than they are prepared to not let other posters get away with lies and Antisemitic comments. It is possible that their account has been sanctioned simply for complaining too much. Yet, if the volume of bile increases so the number of complaints goes up. The answer is to complain from a pc that has never had a BBC 5Live cookie.

We then learn of an even MORE disturbing case where someone with a new posting account had made a few posts under the mandatory rule that all new posters are subject to pre-moderator status. They made a few posts that had nothing to do with any Israel/Palestinian issue. Spotted a poster who was praising Hezbollah and said they hoped Hezbollah would take back Shebaa Farms from Israel.

This new poster happened to know that Shebaa Farms is recognised by the UN as being part of Syria and subject to negotiations between Israel and Syria. The poster merely pointed this out by referencing a quote from and Israeli website quoting an Israeli govt position - and the next thing they discovered was the post was Hidden and they have been locked out of posting at BBC 5Live.

On this basis we feel we can state that this indicates an extreme prejudice by BBC against anyone prepared to defend the position of Israel against the lies they allow to be posted at 5Live.

http://www.mpacuk.org/content/view/4870/102/#jreactions

So, when Muslims in polls state they support suicide bombings (hence attacks possibly against UK citizens as in 7/7), and Muslim who state that 7/7 was justified, any Muslim who goes abroad to fight against British troops etc are also guilty of treason by this logic.

We think that anyone prepared to fight against the people of your home country are potentially guilty of treason. However, we don't see people with sympathies for Israel bombing the hell out of their fellow citizens, or planning to.